Python 3.12/3.11 on Q4OS 6?

theasmitkid · 2025-09-19 14:59

Been delaying my Q4OS 6 installation because there are a few AI/ML python packages i use, which are not yet ready for python 3.13 which debian Trixie uses.
I do remember trying to compile python 3.9 on my Q4OS 5 installation back in the day but it was a too long of a process and I don't really wanna go through that again.. i also don't want to multiboot various q4oses..

Is there any way to install python 3.12 or 3.11 in like /opt/python3.xx (so it doesn't break the base system) without needing to compile from source? Like is there any PPA which could maybe work out for me? If I need to compile nevertheless, how do I skip extras like python test suite n stuff..? I just need a python installation so I can code in peace, after it finishes I'd just run it in latest raspberry pi os (debian bookworm; python 3.12) on a 3b+

This is the only thing keeping me from trying Q4OS 6 which I was so impatiently waiting for, any help would be appreciated!

hchiper · 2025-09-19 20:59

theasmitkid wrote:

I just need a python installation so I can code in peace, after it finishes I'd just run it in latest raspberry pi os (debian bookworm; python 3.12) on a 3b+

If you really just want to code, you don't need any python installation.
Otherwise, since you can't install missing packages from Debian 13 repos, you might try to install them using `pip3 install <package>` within a venv.
Also, note that if you compile from source, there is an option `make altinstall` (see the comments at the beginning of the Makefile built by ./configure) that might fit your needs.

theasmitkid · 2025-09-19 21:53

hchiper wrote:

If you really just want to code, you don't need any python installation.

well ofc i wanna test the code out too

hchiper wrote:

Otherwise, since you can't install missing packages from Debian 13 repos, you might try to install them using `pip3 install <package>` within a venv.

those packages aren't ready for python 3.13 yet.. so its not even available on pip yet

hchiper wrote:

Also, note that if you compile from source, there is an option `make altinstall` (see the comments at the beginning of the Makefile built by ./configure) that might fit your needs.

ig i'd upgrade to q4os 6 anyway and just run python 3.11 or 3.12 on windows (dualboot)

Last edited by theasmitkid (2025-09-19 21:54)

hchiper · 2025-09-20 14:19

Just for my information, I'm curious to know the names of those AI/ML packages usable with python 3.12 that need newer version to be usable with python 3.13.

theasmitkid · 2025-09-20 14:21

Well mediapipe for starters, i could use dlib like i did two years ago but mediapipe tasks and solutions are just way faster

numpy 1.26.X is also for upto python 3.12 only

(Been working with 1.* since the start and heard that 2.* brings a lots of changes, tried out running the old codes with 2.* but didn't work out well so decided to stick with 1.* for now)

Last edited by theasmitkid (2025-09-20 14:29)

hchiper · 2025-09-20 17:55

Thanks for your response. It was the occasion for me to learn more about source packages and binary packages (wheels).
Now I understand your problem much better: mediapipe has no source package available, only wheels, but none for python 3.13 yet.

theasmitkid · 2025-09-20 18:21

Yup, no problem ^^

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