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#26 2025-05-14 13:59

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Re: File Transfert too slow

minuccio63 wrote:

Installed Plasma... both in Trinity and Plasma file transfer OK even in Trinity now it is faster than Plasma, should I leave it like this?

Yes, you can safely keep Plasma within your system now. We are going to perform some investigation and post the results here. We may need some additional info as the investigation goes further.

Are you using Quarkos now ? You may also install Q4OS in the same manner to get the proper transfer speeds.

As soon as we fix the issue, you can remove Plasma or make a fresh Trinity desktop install.

Anyway, thanks for the valuable reporting.

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#27 2025-05-14 16:43

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Re: File Transfert too slow

No now I'm using Q4OS with a basic Trinity installation and the addition of Plasma, the desktop I use is Trinity... ok I remain available for any other tests even if I would like to do one now, how can I remove Plasma and leave only Trinity to see if the problem occurs again?

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#28 2025-05-14 17:05

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Re: File Transfert too slow

minuccio63 wrote:

... how can I remove Plasma and leave only Trinity to see if the problem occurs again?

Just run in terminal:
$ sudo apt --purge autoremove *plasma* *sddm*
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
It will not remove all of, but most of.Plasma components.

Reboot and report what happens.

Edit:
You also need to run:
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
to get TDM login screen active

Last edited by q4osteam (2025-05-14 17:24)

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#29 2025-05-14 17:48

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Thanks I try

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#30 2025-05-14 18:42

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Re: File Transfert too slow

After removing Plasma file transfer = slow.
Reinstalling Plasma on Trinity, speed = fast

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#31 2025-05-14 19:04

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Re: File Transfert too slow

So we need to find the specific package that makes the difference. If you notice anything valuable, let us know.

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#32 2025-05-14 19:25

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Could this be an issue regarding file managers? Trinity uses Konqueror, KDE uses Dolphin. It may indirectly affect how the file transfers are managed.


Q4OS Aquarius 5.x KDE   Dell Inspiron 3670, Dell Latitude 5450

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#33 2025-05-14 19:46

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Re: File Transfert too slow

crosscourt wrote:

Could this be an issue regarding file managers? Trinity uses Konqueror, KDE uses Dolphin. It may indirectly affect how the file transfers are managed.

Possible, but not very likely. Dolphin could install some dependency that would affect low level "rsync" command, maybe.

The "fuse3" and "libfuse3-3" packages are suspicious.

Last edited by q4osteam (2025-05-14 19:50)

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#34 2025-05-14 20:19

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Re: File Transfert too slow

crosscourt wrote:

Could this be an issue regarding file managers? Trinity uses Konqueror, KDE uses Dolphin. It may indirectly affect how the file transfers are managed.


I had thought about this too and tried to install Nemo, Dolphin and Nautilus... the result did not change, the file manager is not the problem

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#35 2025-05-14 21:18

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Re: File Transfert too slow

There may be a difference between the trinity-dolphin package and the dolphin package(or any trinity- package versus a non-trinity package file manager) used in KDE.  I run Plasma exclusively and have never had issues with slow file transfer.

Whats interesting is KDE that Ive used with other distros well in the past, has also had issues with slow file transfers.

Last edited by crosscourt (2025-05-14 22:03)


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#36 2025-05-15 14:37

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Re: File Transfert too slow

In fact, that's what we're trying to solve... if I install Q4OS Trinity I have file transfer problems, but if I install Plasma I have no speed problems and I even did another test, I installed Q4OS Trinity and updated the Desktop Environment in Gnome... file transfer speed = high!
The problem is only in "pure" Trinity

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#37 2025-05-15 15:09

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Re: File Transfert too slow

You could also try to install packages "fuse3" and "libfuse3-3" and see if it affects the speed:
$ sudo apt install fuse3 libfuse3-3

@crosscourt
Interesting fact is, that transfer speeds are low if you stop Trinity desktop completely too. Just with "rsync" command, see https://www.q4os.org/forum/viewtopic.ph … 609#p29609

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#38 2025-05-15 16:44

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Re: File Transfert too slow

q4osteam wrote:

You could also try to install packages "fuse3" and "libfuse3-3" and see if it affects the speed:
$ sudo apt install fuse3 libfuse3-3

Sorry should I try on Trinity with slow transfer or now that the transfer is fast?
Thanks

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#39 2025-05-15 16:50

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Try to install packages on the Trinity with slow speed, reboot and see if it makes speed higher,

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#40 2025-05-15 18:20

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Re: File Transfert too slow

@q4osteam, I missed that in the discussion, thanks for the link.

Last edited by crosscourt (2025-05-15 19:12)


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#41 2025-05-16 08:19

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Update:
New fresh installation Q4OS Trinity 64bit Basic
test transfert file = slow

installation fuse 3 and libfuse 3-3 : always present

root@mino-6730s:/home/mino# apt install fuse3 libfuse3-3
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze... Fatto
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
fuse3 è già alla versione più recente (3.14.0-4).
È stato impostato fuse3 per l'installazione manuale.
libfuse3-3 è già alla versione più recente (3.14.0-4).
È stato impostato libfuse3-3 per l'installazione manuale.
0 aggiornati, 0 installati, 0 da rimuovere e 0 non aggiornati.

Sorry for respons in italian but I'm Italian

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#42 2025-05-16 08:39

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Thanks, so we need to check another libraries, that could affect the USB data transfer.

minuccio63 wrote:

Sorry for respons in italian but I'm Italian

Yes,that is fine, no need to translate system messages smile

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#43 2025-05-16 14:47

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Just to complete the information, after installing Plasma or Gnome on Trinity and verifying that the file copy was fast, without uninstalling Gnome or Plasma I ran the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
the copy speed is slow again

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#44 2025-05-16 15:00

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Re: File Transfert too slow

minuccio63 wrote:

Just to complete the information, after installing Plasma or Gnome on Trinity and verifying that the file copy was fast, without uninstalling Gnome or Plasma I ran the command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity the copy speed is slow again

Is it reproducible anytime you configure Trinity display manager as default ? Great, this is very important info, we seem getting closer to a resolution.

So would you now run the following test please ?
- Start with Trinity desktop with slow speed and Trinity TDM display manager as the default. Checkpoint-1
- Install sddm display manager, but no Plasma:
$ sudo apt install sddm-theme-breeze sddm
Make SDDM the default display manager:
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm
- Reboot and login to Trinity desktop
- Check the speed, Checkpoint-2
Make Trinity TDM the default display manager:
$ sudo dpkg-reconfigure tdm-trinity
- Reboot and login to Trinity desktop
- Check the speed, Checkpoint-3

Report back transfer speeds.

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#45 Yesterday 13:56

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Result.

After Checkpoint-1 velocity = Slow

After Checkpoint-2 velocity = Slow

After Checkpoint-3:

ino@mino-6730s:~$ rsync -ah --progress /home/mino/Prova/Andor.avi /media/mino/TOSHIBA\ EXT/prova
sending incremental file list
Andor.avi
          1,67M   0%   62,19kB/s    2:04:51

Last edited by minuccio63 (Yesterday 13:57)

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#46 Today 09:59

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Re: File Transfert too slow

Slow for all checkpoints. It's also helpful, however we haven't reveal the culprit so far. Investigating continues.

Would you perform another try please ?
Install Q4OS 6 Andromeda Trinity edition https://sourceforge.net/projects/q4os/files/testing/ , Basic profile.. Test the transfer speeds in both, the live media and installed system.

Warning, Q4OS 6 is testing alpha and not usable for production. Expect some things may not work well at the moment.

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