How to make a partition on HD for Q4OS? [Solved]

q4osfan · 2018-04-01 20:03

I have an 'installation USB stick' with Q4OS and running "Install Q4OS" from there to a HD (as a multiple boot system - with Windows7 - Mint 17.2 and Q4OS).
I reduced the Mint partition of about 160 Gb to half size, getting about 80 Gb "unallocated" space.

Then I wanted to create a partition there for Q4OS - but then a warning comes - that the whole disc (or most of it) would be erased !

How to create that partition for Q4OS?

Thanks for any answer.

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-02 16:44)

Dai_trying · 2018-04-01 21:12

You could check out my Installation guide it might help you.

q4osfan · 2018-04-01 23:30

Dai_trying wrote:

You could check out my Installation guide it might help you.

Thanks!
I installed as far as the point where it says double click on the Windows partition.
Then there should come a small window with Mount point - but it doesn't.
Instead a window comes with a warning (there is also a yellow warning sign). It says something like: unable to read the contents of this. ... Missing software package ... ntfs-3g/ntfsprogs
I suppose I should also mark the Mint partition the same way - there also no "Mount..." box comes. Only a box with information: "Not mounted" and a lot of other details. (I tried to find a screen shot utility to capture it, but couldn't find it).
Now I dared not go on - so quitted the installation - the partitions were changed however.
How to proceed?
Thanks.
PS: There also comes some windows with TDE Demon: a new medium is detected. What do you want to do?
1 Open in a new window
2 Do nothing
(Cancel) - I just hit cancel
(3 windows with this)

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-01 23:32)

Dai_trying · 2018-04-01 23:44

During installation there is no need to mount these partitions, is there a reason you are trying to do this? In your previous post you said you have already re-sized your partitions to leave 80Gb free, this is the only area you should be interested in as you just need to create your Q4OS installation partition.

As for the pesky boxes that pop up, I usually just click cancel on them and continue with the installation, I find them pretty annoying and once you have installed you can prevent them from popping up when you modify your partitions in the future.

TIP: To take a screenshot from Q4OS simply press PrtScr and then right click the desktop and select Save Clipboard Contents and type a filename in the box that appears and you have the saved image on your desktop. This works for the Live-Cd and also any Q4OS installation.

q4osfan · 2018-04-01 23:49

Dai_trying wrote:

During installation there is no need to mount these partitions, is there a reason you are trying to do this? In your previous post you said you have already re-sized your partitions to leave 80Gb free, this is the only area you should be interested in as you just need to create your Q4OS installation partition.
As for the pesky boxes that pop up, I usually just click cancel on them and continue with the installation, I find them pretty annoying and once you have installed you can prevent them from popping up when you modify your partitions in the future.
TIP: To take a screenshot from Q4OS simply press PrtScr and then right click the desktop and select Save Clipboard Contents and type a filename in the box that appears and you have the saved image on your desktop. This works for the Live-Cd and also any Q4OS installation.

Thanks!
The reason is you write in your tutorial that a box should come with options to fill in:
Mount should be blank
Format as blank

but I don't get that box.
You write that you should do that for the Windows partition to prevent Q4OS to install there (as I have understood it).
Then double click on swap etc. should give a box which it doesn't (for me).
I'll make some screenshots now.

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-01 23:51)

Dai_trying · 2018-04-02 00:12

I think you are trying to do the instructions in the next step before closing GParted, please re-read the instructions as I cannot see any errors. When using GParted to add the Q4OS partition you only need to create it and apply the changes and when that has finished you close GParted and continue to the next step.

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 00:25

Dai_trying wrote:

I think you are trying to do the instructions in the next step before closing GParted, please re-read the instructions as I cannot see any errors. When using GParted to add the Q4OS partition you only need to create it and apply the changes and when that has finished you close GParted and continue to the next step.

Yes - you are right! Sorry.
I got Scorpion installed and the Desktop Environment and programs.
Nice.
I have one question: how do I change the default option to line 4 in the grub menu? I have done it before but have forgotten how to do it.
Thanks.

Dai_trying · 2018-04-02 00:46

I usually leave each grub configured as they are and use the UEFI boot menu to select which OS I want to boot, that way I can add/remove distributions without affecting the others, If you want to change the boot order of the UEFI menu that can be done usin the instructions I posted in your other topic, just go down to where I change the boot order to see how.

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 10:37

Dai_trying wrote:

I usually leave each grub configured as they are and use the UEFI boot menu to select which OS I want to boot, that way I can add/remove distributions without affecting the others, If you want to change the boot order of the UEFI menu that can be done usin the instructions I posted in your other topic, just go down to where I change the boot order to see how.

Thanks!

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 11:35

Ran into a problem:

Opened two terminals (a 'superuser' and an 'ordinary' terminal) and ran them side by side (sorry, that may be a cardinal sin(?) - but I wanted to see if they reacted similarly)

But couldn't get to the efibootmgr and see the boot order:

[sudo] password for jfog:
Hit:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease
Ign:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Ign:3 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Hit:4 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease
Hit:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Hit:6 http://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-2-0-cn InRelease
Hit:7 http://q4os.org/qtderepo stretch InRelease
Hit:8 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release
Hit:9 http://q4os.org/qextrepo stretch-libreoffice-cn InRelease
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
3 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
jfog@jfogscomp:~$ sudo apt install efibootmgr
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  libglew2.0 libgltf-0.0-0v5 libmwaw-0.3-3 liborcus-0.11-0 libreoffice-pdfimport
  libvisio-0.1-1 libwps-0.4-4
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following additional packages will be installed:
  libefiboot1 libefivar1
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  efibootmgr libefiboot1 libefivar1
0 upgraded, 3 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
Need to get 97,1 kB of archives.
After this operation, 298 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libefivar1 amd64 30-2 [40,8                                                                                                                                                            kB]
Get:2 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 libefiboot1 amd64 30-2 [24,6                                                                                                                                                            kB]
Get:3 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch/main amd64 efibootmgr amd64 14-2 [31,6                                                                                                                                                            kB]
Fetched 97,1 kB in 0s (608 kB/s)
Selecting previously unselected package libefivar1:amd64.
(Reading database ... 139881 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libefivar1_30-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libefivar1:amd64 (30-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libefiboot1:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../libefiboot1_30-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libefiboot1:amd64 (30-2) ...
Selecting previously unselected package efibootmgr.
Preparing to unpack .../efibootmgr_14-2_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking efibootmgr (14-2) ...
Setting up libefivar1:amd64 (30-2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-11+deb9u3) ...
Setting up libefiboot1:amd64 (30-2) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.6.1-2) ...
Setting up efibootmgr (14-2) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.24-11+deb9u3) ...
jfog@jfogscomp:~$ efibootmgr
EFI variables are not supported on this system.
jfog@jfogscomp:~$

Her is the other terminal:

root@jfogscomp:~# sudo apt update
Ign:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch InRelease
Hit:2 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/update
s InRelease
Ign:3 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable InRelease
Get:4 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease [9
1,0 kB]
Hit:5 http://ftp.debian.org/debian stretch Release
Hit:6 http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb stable Release
Hit:8 http://q4os.org/q4repo q4os-2-0-cn InRelease
Hit:10 http://q4os.org/qtderepo stretch InRelease
Hit:11 http://q4os.org/qextrepo stretch-libreoffice-cn InReleas       e
Fetched 91,0 kB in 0s (162 kB/s)
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
3 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see        them.
root@jfogscomp:~# sudo apt install efibootmgr
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
efibootmgr is already the newest version (14-2).
The following packages were automatically installed and are no        longer required:
  libglew2.0 libgltf-0.0-0v5 libmwaw-0.3-3 liborcus-0.11-0
  libreoffice-pdfimport libvisio-0.1-1 libwps-0.4-4
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
root@jfogscomp:~# sudo mkdir /boot/EFI
root@jfogscomp:~# sudo blkid | greb EFI
-su: greb: command not found
root@jfogscomp:~# sudo blkid | grep EFI
root@jfogscomp:~# sudo mount /dev/sda2 /boot/EFI
root@jfogscomp:~# efibootmgr
EFI variables are not supported on this system.

I'm sure this makes sense to you

Dai_trying · 2018-04-02 11:47

I am guessing you may have installed using the "legacy" bios boot system (referred to as CSM) and this might explain the results you are seeing, Did you install Mint as a legacy boot OS?
could you post the output of

sudo parted --list

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 11:52

I have no idea. - I only know I have previously installed Mint. ;-)
But I'm sure you can see it here:

root@jfogscomp:~# sudo parted --list
Model: ATA TS480GSSD220S (scsi)
Disk /dev/sda: 480GB
Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
Partition Table: msdos
Disk Flags:

Number  Start   End     Size    Type      File system     Flags
 1      1049kB  10,7GB  10,7GB  primary   ntfs
 2      10,7GB  299GB   288GB   primary   ntfs            boot
 3      299GB   480GB   181GB   extended
 5      299GB   383GB   84,1GB  logical   ext4
 7      383GB   467GB   83,9GB  logical   ext4
 8      467GB   472GB   4977MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)
 6      472GB   480GB   8464MB  logical   linux-swap(v1)

root@jfogscomp:~#

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 11:54

Oh yes - when I installed Mint - it made a boot menu - and this has been replaced now with the Q4OS menu - does this make sense?

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 11:56

I remember I got the commands to change the default menu option in Mint and changed the default no. and waiting time,... But it seems different in Q4OS...

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-02 11:59)

Dai_trying · 2018-04-02 14:00

Ok, you are using the legacy boot option so the first question you need to answer is which system do you want to have control over grub?

If you want Mint to control it you will need to boot into Mint and re-install grub

sudo grub-install /dev/sda

and then

sudo update-grub

this will bring all OS's into your grub menu putting Mint first and the order of the other systems could be configured after

If you want Q4OS to control grub just update grub and then you can configure boot order.

Configuring the boot order has always been a bit hit and miss with me when multi-booting and the easiest way I have found in the past was to use a package called grub-customizer, the Q4OS devs have made an experimental installer for it which is available in the Q4OS experimental repo athough I haven't used it since getting my UEFI system so you might need to report (in a separate post) if it fails in some way and I'm sure they will look into it when they get a spare minute or two.

You could also install grub-customizer to your Mint installation by adding a PPA (info available here depending on how you want to control your system.

Just a short note, grub-customizer is capable of much more than just changing the boot order but I have used it mainly for that purpose and cannot verify the other options work correctly.

q4osteam · 2018-04-02 14:15

q4osfan wrote:

I remember I got the commands to change the default menu option in Mint and changed the default no. and waiting time,... But it seems different in Q4OS...

You need to edit '/etc/default/grub' file, the 'GRUB_DEFAULT' option determines the default boot menu entry. Afterwards update grub in terminal:
$ sudo update-grub

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 16:11

Dai_trying and q4osteam:

Thanks to both of you!

I'll see what I can figure out

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-02 16:12)

q4osfan · 2018-04-02 16:44

q4osteam wrote:

q4osfan wrote:
I remember I got the commands to change the default menu option in Mint and changed the default no. and waiting time,... But it seems different in Q4OS...
You need to edit '/etc/default/grub' file, the 'GRUB_DEFAULT' option determines the default boot menu entry. Afterwards update grub in terminal:
$ sudo update-grub

This was quite easy - used the 'super user terminal' (in Q4OS) and Nano to edit the file's GRUB_DEFAULT to 3 (=line 4 in the menu, as option 0 = line 1 in the menu) and the waiting time to 3, and then updated grub as you wrote. Then it worked!
Thanks!

Last edited by q4osfan (2018-04-02 16:49)

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