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ydek

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From: Brasil

Registered: 2018-06-11

Posts: 46

Pale Moon on Q4OS

Hello!
I would like to make a suggestion, if possible to put Pale Moon in the Q4OS repositories and in the Q4OS Software Center.
Pale Moon is an excellent browser and for those who use Q4OS Trinity it works very well.
Thanks!

q4osteam

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Registered: 2015-12-06

Posts: 4,772

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Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Yes, we agree Palemoon is a good lightweight browser. Unfortunately Palemoon build depends on Python2 libraries, so it's not possible to build Palemoon for Debian 12 and higher at the moment due to the missing dependencies. The only way is to pull Python2 dependencies into the Palemoon build system as well as the target package what is quite complicated. We may resolve it somehow, however it will take a time.

Some info here https://build.opensuse.org/package/show … r/palemoon

ydek

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From: Brasil

Registered: 2018-06-11

Posts: 46

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Hello!
Thanks for the reply, it's a shame that it's not possible yet but who knows in the near future.

AEthlestan

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Registered: 2024-06-04

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Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

I moved my browsing box from Win7 + Pale Moon to Q4 Trinity + Pale Moon. Indeed it was the inclusion of Pale Moon in your limited set of downloadable programs that convinced me to commit to Linux for my browsing box. Since then I've grown strangely fond of Q4 Trinity despite it's multiple issues.

Alas some time later when I re-installed Q4os I found that Pale Moon was no longer available and have had, with great reluctance, to use the Opera and Vivaldi variants of Chrome. Now this post offers a glimmer of light that I might be able to stay on Q4 Trinity long term for browsing.

I see that it was Debian 12 that is the problem and you at Q4os might consider including a solution in the future so I am more at ease. If no solution comes along then, eventually, I will probably try going back to V4.11 but I don't know how Linux will like or allow that with the seemingly interlinked updates. One way or another I'm going to use Pale Moon (real FF) even if it means going back to Win7 or even XP+ with an older Pale Moon, which might by now actually be more secure than WIn7 as I suspect some malware might not run on XP. [I absolutely do not use the 'net for banking etc.]

Thank you for all your efforts with Q4 THEY ARE APPRECIATED.

ydek

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From: Brasil

Registered: 2018-06-11

Posts: 46

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Hello!
Why don't you try using the Pale Moon .tar.xz version?

max1million

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Registered: 2025-01-04

Posts: 29

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

PM https://www.palemoon.org/download.shtml tarballs didn't work for me.

I'm looking at
32bit and gtk2 builds for Debian/Bookworm https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=31810
(also 64 bit and gtk3)
Moonchild added them to Contributed builds of Pale Moon https://www.palemoon.org/contributed-builds.shtml

Think one (or two) may work for mine
Trinity R14.1.1  (and plasma)
Q4OS 5.7.1-n1 (Aquarius)
q4ospc (windows installer on ntfs, win 7)
6.1.0-28-amd64

isn't Q4OS 5.7.1 Debian 12 Bookworm, Trinity gtk2, and Plasma gtk3?
wmlive for gtk2  bookworm?
or Kannegieser for gtk3 bookworm?

Last edited by max1million (2025-03-11 21:22)

max1million

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Registered: 2025-01-04

Posts: 29

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Just got Pale Moon GTK2: AMD64, i386 and ARM builds for Debian/Bookworm and compatible distros by wmlive.
https://www.palemoon.org/contributed-builds.shtml
downloaded, installed, working, and setup the profile (extensions, prefs, other)
on Q4OS 5.7.1-n1, Trinity R14.1.1, AMD64

Veit Kannegieser's manual installation deb s  not found.
Haven't tried configuration for apt.

Q1derous

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Registered: 2025-03-01

Posts: 15

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Focused on other issues right now, but also interested to see how this one plays out. Would love to add this again.
PM is another great option for non-telem, customizable browsers that forked off FFox and didn't cave to all the new directions that others were following. But, but ... it's modern and everybody else is doing it. Yeah, well good for them. Pass. Sometimes (a lot of the time nowadays) "newer" doesn't always mean better.

crosscourt

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From: Wash DC

Registered: 2017-05-07

Posts: 2,201

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Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Thats why many stayed with Firefox as it stayed closer to the older design versus the many Chromium based browsers. Another popular fork of Firefox is the Mercury browser.

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Q4OS Aquarius 5.x KDE   Dell Inspiron 3670, Dell Latitude 5450

max1million

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Registered: 2025-01-04

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Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

kannegieser may have been transitioning to new PM version yesterday (got the pages up first, debs are there now)
https://kannegieser.net/palemoon/current/packages.html

Also has the "Installation using respository"/"configuration for apt"
and "Script used to repackage" for those who may be interested (looks to be a continuation of stevenpusser)

ydek

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From: Brasil

Registered: 2018-06-11

Posts: 46

Re: Pale Moon on Q4OS

Thanks for the tip, the .deb package makes it much easier, I'll try it out.