crosscourt wrote:Im running the Q4OS KDE version and its using 457mb at GUI after boot. If you want to tweak and stop startup apps you dont need you can get it even lower.
I will try KDE Plasma version, but later. I remember my experience with KDE4 (Kubuntu) in 2012. It was slow, sluggish and contained a lot of unnecessary (for me) stuff. Also it was too difficult for me. GNOME 2 was much faster and easier! The overall impression was so bad, that since then, I had never touched KDE.
KDE 4 was a nightmare; I switched to XFCE for that entire time. KDE 5 (Plasma) is wonderful! It's what should have come after KDE 3.
]]>Interestingly enough, I have installed SparkyLinux on two different testbeds and am getting a common error: it loads a non-US keyboard configuration. I have just posted a support question on their support forum and we'll see if there is a ready fix for that issue.
The only way you can use the installed version of SparkyLinux is to plug in an external USB keyboard. Not really convenient.
This seems to be an issue with laptops. I have not tried loading SparkyLinux onto a desktop, which uses an external keyboard as a matter of course.
Looking for other distros which also include Xfce DE's OOTB (talk about stringing together a schload of acronyms!) I found ROBOLINUX, which has some very interesting qualities.
]]>Well this is an old conversation, but it is one I arrived at after searching for a configurable, lightweight DE. LXDE is very light, but I wanted to keep my initial install light, not add one DE upon another. It's easy for me to say that I would prefer a Xfce OOTB distro of Q4OS, but I am no developer, so I'll have to wait until such a release is offered.
Reason? I have been searching for a lightweight OS for older, 32-bit hardware, that can be easily themed. Reading extensively from the How-To websites, they keep referring to Xfce, and specifically to Xfce4.
I'll be keeping an eye out for any Q4OS/Xfce / 32-bit releases.
Thanks in advance for the work you put into making it.
As that's not going to happen you have two choices.
1. Install XFCE via the desktop profiler in Q4OS
2. Install a dedicated XFCE desktop.
For the latter I recommend Sparkylinux.
32 bit version https://sourceforge.net/projects/sparky … o/download
Amongst a number of useful tools it has a simple interface to the installation of practically all current DEs - Sparky Desktop.
That would allow you to play around and see what takes your fancy.
It is a well balanced install with a good selection of addons that do just enough to help things along without swamping the system.
]]>Reason? I have been searching for a lightweight OS for older, 32-bit hardware, that can be easily themed. Reading extensively from the How-To websites, they keep referring to Xfce, and specifically to Xfce4.
I'll be keeping an eye out for any Q4OS/Xfce / 32-bit releases.
Thanks in advance for the work you put into making it.
]]>KDE is very nice on Q4OS - but willing to look at XFCE if it is 4.14
KDE is the very reason I'm here! I was looking for a Plasma DE as close to Debian as possible.
I think most people looking for an Xfce as close to Debian as possible will float towards MX Linux. And judging by MX's popularity probably stay there.
]]>Im running the Q4OS KDE version and its using 457mb at GUI after boot. If you want to tweak and stop startup apps you dont need you can get it even lower.
I will try KDE Plasma version, but later. I remember my experience with KDE4 (Kubuntu) in 2012. It was slow, sluggish and contained a lot of unnecessary (for me) stuff. Also it was too difficult for me. GNOME 2 was much faster and easier! The overall impression was so bad, that since then, I had never touched KDE.
]]>To bin, that memory number I quoted 425mbs was at the GUI after boot, and I also get similar numbers to you at the Firefox screen, around 850mb.
]]>One of the issues I have come across is the GTK config locations. Q4OS now provided multiple locations to try to cater for different DE's.
This gets to be very confusing especially if, like me, you are used to transporting configs across multiple environments.
In the past I found myself working through and removing all the alternates just to leave a bare ~/.config where I knew it would all work.
By the time I'd done the question was whether it was all worth it to get to an XFCE desktop that I could arrive at in other ways.
All my apps are GTK2/3 or QT4/5. The underlying OS bloat from Debian 8/9 to 10 means there's not a lot of difference in memory consumption, and I'm sorry to say the number of annoying glitches in the Trinity UI mean that it is no longer such a pleasure to use - and boy do I hate Plasma
So, yes I'm in favour of a dedicated XFCE world - but that's already done in Solydx and MX-18 to name but a couple.
What would be the benefit to the Q4OS team to have to work with a whole new range of tools for the benefit of a small minority - especially with the ever changing mudflats of GTK3?
]]>I'm not sure how much customization is done during the profiler installation, but I'm sure it would be relatively easy (if not already done) to add customization to the Q4OS Xfce Desktop Profiler installation.
]]>Lat time I checked Xfce could be installed from the Desktop profiler straight after installation, so it almost is a Q4OS Xfce version... but maybe I'm being picky.
You can also easily install xfce with apt. But that's not the point is it? You surely understand that "it almost is", as you put it, it's quite different to a proper Q4OS customized, themed and native apps integrated install.
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